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1. Who are the ‘every one’ that finds him that he is worried about killing him? There is no mention before now of anyone besides his dead brother Abel and his Adam and Eve. Seth isn’t born until verse 25.

The scriptures do not explicitly state that there were other sons and daughters besides those that the scriptures list before Seth in Gen 5:4, but there others things that tend to make us think that. We need to be careful to now think above that which is written.

1Co 4:6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.

Look at Genesis chapter 4:
Where did Cain get his wife from if no other children were born to Adam and Eve? No other children are listed at this point besides Cain and Able.

Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

And where did Lamech get his wives?

Gen 4:19 And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.

If we were not told about these daughters, did God not tell us about other sons as well? We really don’t know.
Gen 4:14 could lead you to believe that there were other sons of whom Cain was afraid, but the scriptures just do not make that clear. It could just have been in idol of the heart given to Cain to torment him. We just don’t know.

Gen 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

In the scriptures God often chooses people out of a generation for a purpose paying no attention to the order in which they were born. Look at king David.. he was the youngest yet chosen to be king.

Here it is prophesied that Esau (the older) will serve Jacob (the younger).

Gen 25:23 And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

Seth could have been the next son or not, we’re not really sure. Or maybe it was just his line that God chose to follow.

In Genesis 5 we are told that everyone after Cain bore sons and daughters, and clearly Adam and Eve before Seth bore sons and daughters. I don’t want to go above what is written, so all I can say is that there were definitely other children than those which are listed due to the omission of some daughters. We know that Eve is the mother of all living, so any children on the earth came through her.

Gen 3:20 And Adam called his wife’s name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
Were there other sons before Seth besides Cain and Able? The scriptures do not say, so we should not concern ourselves with this question.

1 Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and ENDLESS genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

Cain is full of fear and has a multitude of idols in his heart. Idols do not exist, so there is no need for other physical people to exist for Cain to be fearful, even though it is likely that many other people did exist at that time. God gave Able idols of the heart, and then answered him according to those idols.

Eze 14:3 Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their heart, and put the stumblingblock of their iniquity before their face: should I be enquired of at all by them?
Eze 14:4 Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I the LORD will answer him that cometh according to the multitude of his idols;
Eze 14:5 That I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols.

Here are more verses about having a spirit of fear, versus a sound mind full of peace.

Pro 15:15 All the days of the afflicted are evil: but he that is of a merry heart hath a continual feast.

We are told to not be afraid, because we first are afraid.

Pro 3:25 Be not afraid of sudden fear, neither of the desolation of the wicked, when it cometh.
Pro 3:26 For the LORD shall be thy confidence, and shall keep thy foot from being taken.

Our mind is first NOT on the Lord and not full of peace.

Isa 26:3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.

This is the end result of God’s work in our lives.

2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

2. Many people have claimed to have had out of body experiences. Some even claim to be able to spilt and spirit walk at will. Are these just delusions?

You are exactly right, the dead know nothing, so these are nothing but delusions by the Lord to keep the world trapped in blindness until the appointed time of redemption.

Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

2Ch 18:22 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee.

Here is an article on the subject of strong delusion.
Strong Delusion Article

3. Why three things? The words heart, soul, and mind are found in several places in the KJV of the Bible. Why didn’t he say with all your mind and body?

The verse you reference in Matthew 22:37 is also written in Luke and Mark, however these two writers include “strength” in their list. God is basically saying that he wants everything we have to obey him, and he uses these four words to explain that.

Luk 10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Here is an expert from a paper that I wrote, How to Wage Spiritual Warfare that explains each of these words.

When we are under the law of Moses, still in the church, we can look good to
the world and appear to be righteous, but God knows what is really in our hearts.
At this point we are still carnal, the beast just appears to be tamed to some degree
in the outward.

Let’s look at what Christ says on the matter. When the scribes asked Christ what
the is the greatest commandment, here is his response:

Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear,
O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with
all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first

What does this mean? Here is the definition of love.

1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments:
and his commandments are not grievous.

So we are to keep his commandments in our hearts, our souls, our minds and
with our strength.

How is this done?

First we must believe all of his commandments.

Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and
with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

The word for “Soul” in the New Testament is G5590 (psuche). The word is used
105 times in the NT, 36 times it is translated as “life”. We are being commanded
to obey with our entire life, in every way possible.

Mat 6:25 Therefore I say unto you, take no thought for your life, what ye shall
eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the
life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

Mat 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will
lose his life for my sake shall find it.

Mar 10:45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to
minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

We are to give up our old life and live a new obedient life in Christ.

We are also told to obey with our minds.

2Co 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself
against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to
the obedience of Christ;

Christ makes it clear that outward obedience is no longer enough, he wants our
every thought to be in obedience. It is not enough to simply restrain from killing our brothers, we must not even be angry with our brothers.

Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother
without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his
brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou
fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Finally we are to obey with all of our strength.

1 Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man
minister, let him do it as of the ability (strength) which God giveth: that
God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ…

All of this goes to show that that repentance and cleaning the outside of the cup is
not the end goal. God wants complete obedience in our beliefs, our minds, and
our actions. It is necessary that we go through this first part of our walk on our
way to completion.

1Co 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which
is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

4. The word resurrection is used 40 times in the New Testament [KJV], but isn’t found in the Old Testament. Where did this belief come from?

Resurrection is certainly an Old Testament concept. The Pharisees and Saducees were divided over whether the dead would be raised. Both of these groups based their beliefs strictly on the Old Testament, since there want not yet a New Testament written at that time.

Mat 22:23 The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him,

Act 23:8 For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit: but the Pharisees confess both.

Here is one very clear passage on this topic in Ezekiel.

Eze 37:1 The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones,
Eze 37:2 And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry.
Eze 37:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.
Eze 37:4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
Eze 37:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:
Eze 37:6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
Eze 37:7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone.
Eze 37:8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.

Here two more reference:

Hos 6:1 Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
Hos 6:2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

Psa 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Psa 16:11 Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.

Here is a study that covers Resurrection in the Old Testament:

5. The next question has to do with the number of books in the Bible. It seems odd to me that the number is 66 a multiple of man’s number 6. One would think that it would be a multiple of 7 or 12. Do you think that there is any possibility that there are any missing books knowing that God keeps things hidden?

The number six is the number of man and the number two stands for witness. So the 66 books of the bible are a witness to the fact that man is a beast.

Ecc 3:18 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.

Here is a link the studies on the numbers if you’d like to look more into this.
Numbers Studies

Based on the scriptures there is no reason to believe that we are missing any books of the bible. The book of Revelation is the capstone to the bible, making it clear that there is nothing else that needs to be written.

This article goes in too much greater detail on this very question.
What Should Be Considered Scripture?

6. Are there other witness to Psalms 119:160

Psa 119:160 CLV The sum of Your word is truth, And all of Your righteous ordinances are eonian.

Indeed there are. This first verse in peter is a second witness because it confirms that no single verse is the truth.

2Pe 1:20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of scripture at all is becoming its own explanation.”

The next two verses are a more direct second witness because they say that there must be two or three witness to establish the truth.

Deu 17:6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.

Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

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